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Fan comments There has been plenty of negative reviews for The Razor's Edge over the years. Which is why I was so pleased when people started sending me e-mails to say how much they loved the film and how it had changed some of them.
Believe it or not but when he saw the tape he just kept on saying how much he loved that movie and: "I worked sooooo hard on that one". He was in a state of adoration of my tape! It's been so much fun seeing him acting like it was a holy item!" Darya. I've stumbled upon your website, not entirely accidental since I was looking up information on why this gem has flopped. I'd like to thank you for the dedication to this masterpiece as it did give me the answer to why this epic movie wasn't a success with the "public", and more. Seeing all the rave from other like minded cinephiles I do feel that this timeless (though fast-paced) movie about life was a grand accomplishment in every way. "It doesn't matter" whether John, Bill or the movie itself got the recognition, this simply is one of the best movies ever made. EDL I just came across your website and thought I would take the opportunity to praise The Razors Edge. As a long time fan of Bill Murray I have to say that this is one of my favorite films of his. I think his performance in this film ranks up there with my favorite Lost in Translation. As sore as I was about his Oscar loss (Im still a little bitter :D), the fact that this film was so unappreciated when it came out is almost as disappointing. For me, discovering the love and care that was put into this film makes me love it more than I did when I first saw it. I wish I could thoroughly convey how much this film continues to entertain and enlighten me. Every time I watch it I feel like I get a little more out of it (not to mention it makes me want to go back and read more Maugham and thats not a bad thing either!).
A Thanks for the great website! The Razor's Edge is one my favorite movies of all time. I actually just finished watching it for the 'umpteenth' time and I was curious to what was out there on the web and found your site. I first saw the movie back in 1998 and it was introduced to me from a friend who was 'moved' by the movie himself. I can really relate to it in that I was a paratrooper in Somalia in 1992 and had a few experiences that made me question the 'meaning of life'. In 2004 I took refuge with the Buddha, Dharma and the Sangha and I believe it is because this movie was one of the reasons. I hope in two years to make the trip to India to see the Buddhist Holy sites. Thanks again for the website. BA "One
of the most meaningful movies ever made, and my favorite. Bill Murray
deserved an oscar for this one. I wish the powers that be would put
together a Director's Cut of this movie with the deleted scenes replaced
and the alternate original ending intact. "WoW! "This is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I just found the DVD for $10, so I'm happy. I hope Bill realizes what a great job he did. And Theresa Russell, well, what can I say?" BC "I found the site by accident. I had finally worn out my VHS version of the movie and I was looking for the DVD and Soundtrack online and found your site. How interesting it is. It is nice to read about other people that have been not just fans of the movie but have been changed emotionally from it. Sadly I can't remember my first viewing of the movie but it must have been in 86 or 87. I rented it only because I am a fan of Mr. Murray. I loved it. Soon after I checked out the original movie and I didn't enjoy it as much. Then I read the book and I thought it was very good, and have read it a few more time since. But the twist that Mr. Murray and Mr. Byrum put in it hit home with me. The movie just gets better the older I get. It would be interesting to know about how many women vs. men like this movie. I would think that more men would be drawn to this movie than women. Some women may relate to Isabel or a man that they lost like Larry but I think that the relationships that Larry had with his friends and loved ones and more importantly his quest for 'what it's all about'is what connects most men to the movie. I sure wish that the lost footage would be available and added to the movie in a directors cut version. Oh well, great site and best of luck in the future with more info." B "What a great movie! I was a fan of the older
Tyrone Power version for years and when the later was released, friends
couldn't understand why I liked it so? D "I recently stumbled across your sight devoted to the Billy Murray movie, the Razors Edge.I agree 100% that this film needs to be remembered. To this day it is one of the movies that had a particular impact in my life, or at least my perception of life. My exposure to the film began several years after it had debuted when a friend suggested it as something that he said "would take my breath away." As this was the same friend that had introduced me to Fritz Lang's Metropolis as well as expressed fascination with the fart scene in Blazing Saddles. To put it mildly I had no idea what to expect. A group of friends sat down to watch the VHS version of the movie one night. To put it simply the movie was amazing. Here was a true story of the search for enlightenment, something that had always intrigued me. It seemed a film out of place in the times that it had been made. It is a genuine epic, an epic of the type that had stopped being made decades earlier. When Larry takes his prized books ( Books that to him symbolize the very enlightenment he is searching for.), and uses them to build a fire in the hopes of getting a little warmth to fight the extreme cold, the point was not lost to me. The "point" to me is that enlightment is very complicated thing, but it is also very simple. There is not one book, or one teacher that holds all the keys. It is a journey that one needs to make, expanding on who they are, and more importantly who they will be. Larry manages to keep his eyes open throughout most of the movie. There are times when he does not want to look, times when he would rather cover his eyes, but he is not that sort of person. The war effects him tremendously, nearly bringing him to his knees. After it he is left with a deep discontent for the life that has been planned for him. He rebels and embarks on a journey of self discovery, literally climbing up the mountain of enlightment to seek the answers that he so desperately wants. Once he arrives at the hut near the top he awaits the answers that he has strived for. As the temperatures at that extreme altitude continue to drop he enventually makes the decision to use the books that mean so much to him as so much stock for the fire. As the pages of the book burns he comes to a conclusion of sorts. The revelation that he was looking for he already possessed, he just had to let go of the dream for easy answers to his complicated questions. Complicated. Yet simple..." DT "like so many, i stumbled across your site and i wanted to thank you for putting it together. i'm in the middle of watching the film right now, and it was such a treat to find such a well done, thorough site on what i think is a vastly underrated movie. in an age where movie audiences are more used to comedians being in non-comedic films, its sad to think that bill murray's turn in TRE was just a little ahead of its time--clearly, columbia pictures had no idea how to market the thing. TRE is my favorite book, i own about a dozen different editions of it and i always find something new everytime i re-read it. i enjoy both film versions, even though they are very different from the book and in turn different from each other. " RK "I do love the film dearly. It speaks to my own search for truth and meaning in this world and beyond. Thank you again for your sharing of information about this wonderful and heartfelt masterpiece!" T "Like many others, I stumbled upon your site by accident while looking for information on my favorite film, The Razor's Edge. I was particularly struck by how many people (myself included) were so moved by the film that the direction of their lives was literally changed by it. For myself, I was inspired to study Eastern Religions, and eventually received a B.A. in Religious Studies and a Master's in Buddhist Studies. I've written two novels (so far) and have been living for the past 2 1/2 years in Japan, where I am translating Buddhist prayer books into English. Throughout these last 20 years I've always proudly explained (often to confused looks or doubtful smirks) that the shove in the back I received which started me on this journey was an unpopular 80's movie starring Bill Murray. Never did I think that so many others would have been affected the way that I was. But then again, considering the quality of the film as well as its message, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at all." MDB "I stumbled across your site a few weeks ago and had to write. I saw this movie 20 years ago and loved it (I was in my 20s then). Recently, I watched it again, and it has touched me in a way I can't describe. This movie has changed my life, in many ways. If you have ever lost a love the way Larry lost Sophie, then you understand. I did, and that is partly why this movie holds such power for me. When he is telling Isabel how he thought Sophie was his reward for living a good life, it literally brings me to tears. Bill Murray captures the essence of Eastern thought so wonderfully, and the dry humor he adds is a perfect fit. I only wish this movie received the wide appreciation and acceptance it deserves. But like Bill says to Sophie, (the critics)..."just don't get it."" WM "I have always been a fan of this movie since I first saw it when it came out on video. When I first heard of this movie I wasn't necessarily expecting Bill's usually shtick, and I was pleased with the result. I was moved by the story and by Bill Murray's performance. I learned that it was a remake of a 40's era movie with Tyrone Powers and based on a Somerset Maugham novel. I was using Google to search for the one sheet poster for this movie when I stumbled upon your site. I was drawn into it and enjoyed the content you've posted. I wanted to take a minute to say thanks." Sincerely, BP "I have to say, this is my favorite film to date. As many times as others have mentioned this on your site, it begs to be repeated: This film has changed my life. Bill Murray proved to be a very moving and emotional actor here; a pleasant change from the comedic roles we usually see him in. As pure and realistic of a performance that I have ever seen. Despite the historical events, the film has a timeless quality of man's everlong quest to find more for himself in an inspirational way. Just a fantastic film, and you do it a great service by making a fan site. Thanks for taking the lead."
" TRE is my favorite movie and novel. I spent three months in India because of, two months of which I spent living in Srinagar and Ladakh. Corny as it sounds, it changed my life completely." Cheers, MH
Anyway, Thank You for keeping your website up for all of us who want more insight into this film. I, for one, appreciate it very much." Best Regards, JO It was interesting to come across a website dedicated to the Razor's Edge films. I think the 1984 film is a beautiful piece of work. I bought a multi-region DVD player just to play it as it was not available in region 2. And I love rainy Sunday afternoons as they give me the perfect excuse to sit and watch it again. The negative and worse (indifferent) response that the film got from both critics and public has always puzzled and saddened me. That Bill Murray, John Byrum, Theresa Russell, Denholm Elliot and the rest are not now bitter and twisted depressives is a testament to human endurance. I only hope that they have profound satisfaction in the quality of their work and comfort in the knowledge that it is still out there being rediscovered and perhaps reappraised. I hope that Bill Murray was as well equipped to deal with it as his character became. This is a film that could so easily have shot right up it’s own poop chute - and I imagine it would if were remade again. It contains emotions that match the thematic range of high mountains to deep mines. It is sad but uplifting. And all this without the merest whiff of sentimentality or schmaltz. And Bill Murray's Larry is a strong charismatic and sympathetic central character. I can only put the negative manner by which the portrayal was received down to - well.. old fashioned prejudice (the inability to see beyond a narrow preconceived opinion of someone). Lets hope that new generations can appraise the film without prejudice and perhaps save it from obscurity. MO A message for John Byrum... I loved the novel, saw the Tyrone Power movie and yours as soon as it came out, as I recall it now. Yours was superb. I loved it. Everything was handled so well, and for once someone managed to get a complex and sophisticated novel onto film and to do it right and with heart and devotion. When I got out of grad school in NY and traveled the world and went to a couple of wars, I, like countless other readers, saw something of Larry in myself. Now, after all that stuff, I'm doing something a little like what Larry told the narrator he was going to do at the end of the book. I was online looking for a way to reread this magnificent novel - having earlier suggested to yet someone else (as I have done so many times) that they have to see your picture - and I stumbled on The Razor's Edge Film Site. I'm glad for the chance to thank you personally for the movie. I loved it when it came out and I've loved it every time I've seen it since. It has worn beautifully. By the way, a few years after TRE came out I was working on a documentary in the Brill Building in New York and Bill must have been working there on something, because I saw him in the elevator many times. It was great to see that the star of TRE was such a good guy off screen. BB "I first saw the original film version with Tyrone Power in 1948 when I was 12 years-old. Now I am 71 and the influence of this movie along with Mr Murray's more recent version of it are deeply and permanently embedded in my heart and mind. This story, in some mysterious way has had a tremendous positive impact on my life (not that I'm any kind of a saint!) but it probably inspired me to become a much better person than I would otherwise have ever been." CR "Thank you so much for your website. I just finished the book (which I have read for the second time now) and was feeling nostalgic for the Bill Murray adaptation, which I saw over twenty years ago and have never forgotten it. Such a wonderful movie, I'm determined to find it and watch it again. It deserves a very special place in my very selective DVD collection." DB "I came across your site while searching for pics for one of my all-time favorite movies, The Razor's Edge. I've been hoping and hoping for a Special Edition DVD that includes a full commentary by Bill Murray and John Byrum but I was thrilled to find so much information on your website. I will always remember seeing The Razor's Edge in October of 1984. It came at a time when I really needed to see a film like that. I had dropped out of college and was just free-floating without much purpose or direction. Watching Larry's spiritual odyssey from "the cow pastures of Illinois" to the mountains of Nepal to the steps of Montmatre was a comfort and an inspiration to get the journey started. I moved out of my "cow pastures" and I have a photo of me standing on the steps in Paris, maybe even the very same steps Bill Murray climbed at the end of the movie. With Bill Murray's recent critical success with Lost In Translation and Broken Flowers, I'm hoping that a new audience takes a look at The Razor's Edge and discovers that the next great Murray performance had been in 1984. I was there in that theatre to see it then. And I'll never forget it. I've read the novel and I've seen the original Tyrone Power version, but the Bill Murray will always have a special place in my heart. Thank you for your website." JK "Thank you for this great website! I watched the film for the first time last night. My husband has spoken of this film numerous times and I finally had to see it. How glad I was to find you after a search on the web. I had so many questions about the film. I think this film was made before its time. So many of my friends and I were not in a place of searching for enlightenment in the mid-80's. Now, that is the central theme of our lives - searching and finding the truth. If you have any clout with the producers, how about asking them to post on your website the scene left out in the church with Bill Murray improvising his search for God. I think all fans would love to watch it! the technology is there to do it." CL "I happened to come across your fantastic site tonight after watching a trailer for the Painted Veil, which is being released in the States next month starring Edward Norton and Naomi Watts. As I am sure you are aware, Painted Veil is another wonderful Somerset Maugham book. Anyhow, it brought back memories of how much I loved Bill Murray in the 1984 movie. One thing worth mentioning - the film score is, like the movie, is one of the greatest scores ever written and yet goes without any mention. I was lucky enough to come across it on eBay some years back and treasure it. Jack Nitzsche was a genius. I am glad to hear that the 84 movie is enjoying a renaissance - I thought I was one of the few people to truly love it!" SS "I am a huge fan of The Razor's Edge - both the movie and book. Actually, I am currently re-reading the novel (my third or fourth time) and was curious to see if anyone else out there on-line might have some interesting insights about the story or movie. Low and behold I found your site, and not only that, I also discovered that there's going to be a showing of the 1984 film in San Francisco - my backyard - next week! Otherwise, I'd have not known about it and would've been sorely disappointed had I not visited your site in time. This is really huge for me because for years I've been pushing this film (without a whole lot of success) on friends and have always hoped that some retro theatre would put it on the big screen. Now here's my chance, so I'm inviting everyone I can think of and going. Even though I probably watch the film once a year, I'm going! " CN "As the author of "Slow Walk in A Sad Rain," considered by many to be the Catch-22 of the Vietnam War, I understand deeply what Murray and the director were trying to do with this fine, great film. Piedmont (foot hills) to MacKenzie (mining for meaning) to Raaz (cleansing)to the top of the mountain (probably one of the finest scenes ever shot of the Himalayas), Larry stayed on the path to understanding and spiritual enlightenment. Indeed, the final shot shows him, bereft of Sophie, still climbing upwards, still searching. One can imagine him living next to Hunter S. atop the mountains of Colorado, trading insights in his old age! Humour is the way veterans deal with the real horror of the world. Right now, even in the carnage of the Middle East, men (and I suppose, some women) find black humor to keep their balance. I think Gray Maturin represents most in today's world, responding to what they're told to think and buy and believe, and never looking behind the official line. They are truly "Gray," not a vivid color but the dust blown by the winds of war and propaganda and advertising. This film will always be taught by me wherever I teach. It is that important."
"I have never been a Bill Murray fan. I guess I don't appreciate his type of humor. When I saw him in "The Razor's Edge" I kept waiting for his usual off-beat comedy comments. I was amazed how good he was in the role. I have been trying for several years to find the movie to buy because in my haste to find fault with his portrayal of Larry I neglected to appreciate his talent." TC "Razors Edge is still, without any doubt, my favorite movie. It was my favorite Bill Murray movie until Lost In Translation, but Razors Edge is my all-time favorite. I dont think Ive ever used the word favorite so much in so short a span. The reason it was not popular is what must confound most great artists. I still get choked up just thinking about the end when Larrys holding that footstool in one hand and telling Isabel, It doesnt matter, it doesnt matter. Its almost the same line he uses in Meatballs when hes motivating the team in their little pep rally scene. I think theres another movie where he utters the same words. I began thinking that was Bills underlying philosophy and it has a bit of a zen buddhist tinge. For years I wanted to be able to tell Bill Murray and anyone else associated with the movie that they were superb and IT WAS a great movie. I do think the music, the soundtrack, has to be considered one of the finest ever. For me the music helps pull me along, raise me up, plunge me down and finally make that walk up the stairs and head home. I havent watched the movie in years and dont know how I happened upon your site but glad I did. Today I go to the library and borrow it again and again and again." PA "Thank you for putting together your excellent site on The Razor's Edge. Back in '84, I recall seeing the film in a nearly empty theater. The film was very good, and it seemed a pity so few people were watching it. But when recommending it to friends I received a cool response; they wanted and expected a Bill Murray comedy or they weren't going. A familiar story, as your site points out. I reacted differently. The Razor's Edge was part of my inspiration to go and live in the Arctic, which I did for nine years. I discovered, or instinctively grasped, that it doesnt matter where one goes to seek enlightenment, provided it is away from the distractions and/or mindset of an earlier life, and one seeks in earnest. I hope your site will inspires others to seek out this overlooked film and perhaps find what moved you and I. Murray was ahead of his time. His varied uses of comedy as entertainment, revelation, shield, perforator, etcetera-- in the film were novel, but appropriate. Humour as a very necessary form of altered consciousness." NB "Back in 1985 my father and I went to a gas station in our tiny farm town in Iowa and while I was paying for gas my father spotted "Razor's Edge" and suggested we rent it. Despite numerous literary pretensions, I knew nothing of Maugham's tremendous book. We went home, watched the movie, and I found myself turning back to it again and again and again in my head. A few years later, my wife bought me a copy of the video - the first video I ever owned. Later she bought me one of the posters, and I have read Maugham's work at least three times. I and a friend (whom I introduced to the movie a few years ago) have spent the past 10 days in Srinigar and Ladakh. I packed the DVD and we watched it on our houseboat during our first night in Kashmir. The next morning, I spotted the mosque that is featured so prominently in the movie as Larry floats down the river. Feeling a bit silly, I insisted that we stop the car so I could take pictures. (My Indian friend explained to the taxi driver that I was an American movie producer looking for a set, so he indulged me, though he also asked about a part...) But that was nothing compared to our days in Ladakh when my friend would say, "There's the church, Larry", as we drove past Thikse, and I would reply, "I must get back to my boats..." We wandered all over Thikse monastery, and my friend has labeled her photos with titles like, "The stairs where Larry's lama stands", and "We have been waiting. You are welcome, welcome." It has been tremendous. I went online today to try to determine conclusively whether we had properly identifed who "Mackenzie" is in the movie (Peter Vaughan) and was delighted to stumble onto your website. As someone who fell in love with this movie 20 years ago, I wanted to express my appreciation to you for the effort you have invested in this website. For those of us to whom this movie speaks, this is a tremendous and wonderful resource." DR "I came across your site due to the efforts of a friend of mine a few days ago. D and I were traveling in the Indian Himalayas and every night that we were in Srinagar and Ladakh we watched "Razors Edge" - its truly an all time favorite of mine. I JUST LOVE the film and we had such a good time looking out for the spots where Larry walked - Srinagar, the Dal lake, stupas around Thikse monastery etc.
And, we had debated so much about the film, that reviewing the contents of your site was informative and insightful. I fail to see why the film flopped - I think the audience lacks the maturity!! Both the acting and direction was superb. Actually, I have even captioned some of my photos based on the dialogues of the film. I am attaching one such photo for you (above). Thanks for making the effort of putting this website together." PS "I'm John Byrum's wife, Karin. We've both looked at the site and think it's great. What a compliment! KB "I am writing to you to let you know how much I appreciate your efforts in puting together the Razor's Edge Web site. It is a wonderful site, obviously put together with care and love, and I am grateful to you for putting it out on the Web. The film is very special to me in many ways. I am
29 now, but when I first saw it five years ago, I was going through
my own spiritual wanderings. The film sounded a deeply resonant chord
within me in a way that I cannot accurately describe. It's proven difficult
to share with others, as it is does not end on an "up" note. I agree with you, by the way, that the India sequences are some of the best in the film. To me, Saeed Jaffrey is one of the standouts, besides Bill Murray. I'd love to see an article on your site about the penultimate quote from the movie. The whole idea about there not being a "payoff" for living is one to meditate and think upon. I hope you don't mind all this gushing from a complete stranger. I just wanted to say thanks again for a wonderful site and sharing it with the world." MR "I just wanted to drop you a line and tell you that I really like your site - since Murray's more consistent turn to semi-dramatic, non-slapstick comedy, I've mentioned this movie over and over again as evidence that everyone shouldn't be so shocked. My parents and I saw this right after it came out on video (I was eight or nine, I suppose) - we went to a small, independently-owned video store where the owner always gave us recommendations for "unexpected" movies. My parents loved it, and even I liked what didn't go over my head at that point. When I was in high school, I had a teacher who showed us the film in an English class - I remember talking to him about it, and the fact that it seemed to be such a secret amongst a small group. Around that time my parents and I saw the Tyrone Power version, and it astonishes me that 'that' is what is considered the classic. This is just a long-winded way form me to say that I was happy to see a site about this very underrated film - I hate to think that it will be years from now, after Murray is gone and you're seeing box sets dedicated to him, that people finally notice this film again." MH "I'm very glad that I stumbled across your site today. Both film versions of THE RAZOR'S EDGE are among my favorite films. I listen to the 1984 version's soundtrack CD regularly, and have the film on DVD." MS "Just wanted to let you know that I think you did a tremendous job in bringing the filming of "The Razor's Edge" to the public with this site. I did not know that the eulogy that Bill Murray gives when Piedmont dies, was in reality paying homage to John Belushi. (He just picked up on the theme that Piedmont expoused when the two drivers in the white ambulance were killed when their vehicle was hit.)" JA "First off, I want to thank you for dedicating
a site to the greatest movie ever made. This movie has been RM "Just a quick line to say I love the website! I think The Razor's Edge is a wonderful film and very much neglected." C "Thanks for your site it is beautiful and the movie is great of course." GR "I just finished watching the movie. I thought it was good. it's now on of my favorite movies. Bill Murray is such a good actor. If you haven't seen "Lost in Translation" go see it, but by now i bet you have. anyway thanks for making the site, and all the info you have on the movie." R "I was searching the internet for information about the movie/book Razor's Edge, and came across your site. I think that the Razor's Edge with Bill Murray is one of the best movies ever made! I own a copy and watch it 2 or 3 times a year." DE "We just made your site for The Razors
Edge our SITE OF THE WEEK on the Texas Models & Talent Forum.
Our model and acting forum / bulletin board has over 3200 registered
members in Texas, USA. Your site is excellent and is based upon one
of my personal favorite films. Good work. Thanks." 11th-18th June 2005 (Thanks!) "Thank you for the site. I've been a fan of the film for years, and have watched it more times than any other film." RL "I felt it necessary to impart my feelings about
''Razor's Edge''. I feel in many ways that Mr. Murray took a huge chance
on this film. It is one of my favourites and in many ways mirrors my
experiences as an emergency room doctor. I have so much respect, even
after so many years since this film was originally made and shown, for
Mr. Murray's depiction of Larry, and I love the story line. I feel that
this movie helped me get to a place where I needed to be in my life.
It made acceptance easier. A caterpillar can walk Kudos. KK "I've been a closet fan of the novel and the 1984 movie for several years. It never dawned on me that there would be an internet site devoted to The Razor's Edge. Needless to say, I very much enjoyed learning more about it. Though I have never been facinated by celebrities, I've often fantasized about sitting down and discussing this film with Mr. Murray. The story has always been a light in my life. From my time as a wildland firefighter, to traveling across the country on a motorcyle to spending time with the indiginous peoples of Venezuela, I've still always envied Larry Darrell for his enlightening journey. So if you ever see Mr. Murray give him a pat on the back for me, and let him know that he has brought to life a very profound story for some of us. Thanks." BWB |
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